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Fight to keep Yaoi & Yuri on D.A.

Thu Jul 16, 2009, 5:43 AM
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:bulletpink: Intro :bulletpink:

So its come to my atenchun that both Yaoi & Yuri are being taken off DA. This is wrong. DA is about posting ones art and showing it to the world. DA shouldn't take it off just cause some morons wan't it off. Really that ticks me off, it really does.

I'll admit that i'm a little suprised at the Yuri part but not really suprissed at Yaoi. I myself am a Yaoi FanBoy but alot of guys can't grasp the Feeling of Guy on Guy action. However, thats not what most Yaoi and Yuri are about. There about romance, the conection between each other. The love, the bond, thats what there about. At least to me anyways.
So My friends incunclussion to this Intro i ask that you read on and then when you do, Join the us as we Strick back at those that wish Yaoi & Yuri away from DA and anywhere else

Thank You

:bulletblue: Fight back ! :bulletblue:

As the days pass, anti-yaoi/yuri people are gaining more space on deviantART, and we need to stop that. That's the purpose of this protest. Actually, it's not only a protest. This is to unite all the members of deviantArt who like, support, or at least have respect for this. We will also name, one by one, those who are trying to bring war against us.

We don't want a war, we want to end it... but if we have to fight for that, so be it. Those who are with us, please repost this, and add your name to those who have already signed it.

:bulletyellow: First of all... :bulletyellow:

First of all, we are not all what you call "fangirls", there are "fanboys", too. And "fangirls" are not annoying, squealing, retarded, dumb, idiots, or whatever else the yaoi-haters call them. There are some who are, but not all. "Fangirl" is just a junction of the words "Fan" and "Girl", meaning that all girls who are fans of something, be it anime/mangá, yaoi, yuri, films, actors, shows, books, etc, can be called "fangirls".

Yes, there are intelligent fangirls. Yes, both boys and girls have the right to like yaoi and/or yuri. And no, we won't stop liking it just because someone said so.

There are many who I've seen who said something like: "I love yuri, but yaoi is shit." Please, people, yaoi and yuri are almost the same. If a boy comes to me and says "You can't be serious... two boys together... that's disgusting!", I'll reply "Yes, I'm serious. You like yuri, why can't I like yaoi? It's the same."

The same if it happens the other way around. Also, if I like yaoi, I don't have to like yuri, and if I like yuri, I don't have to like yaoi. Now, I have to at least respect the people who like it, because if I say, or even just think like "I hate it", or "It's disgusting", I'll be a person with a closed mind.

Also, we don't like only fanpairings, and there are those who don't like any fanpairings. There are also yaoi anime/mangá. Understand that, too.

What about slash? There are some who like it, some who don't. Same as fanpairings, and can be included in that category.

:bulletgreen: Now... :bulletgreen:

As has been said in other protests, and by great artists like :icontabe-chan: and :icondkstudios05: , dA is always fast when it's to remove a devitation that contains yaoi or yuri, but is very slow when it's to check about het. Homophobia is a social disease, and has to be put to an end.

I'm not saying: "You all must like yaoi/yuri!", but yes "You must respect those who like it."

:bulletpurple: Let's leave one thing clear :bulletpurple:

We know there are some of those that declare themselves "Anti-yaoi" or "Anti-yuri" that are just 'bothered by seeing fanart of their favourite characters with others of the same genre'. Well, to those who have this as a thought, here goes some friendly advice:

1. Don't click the link, if you see that it's yaoi/yuri.
2. Don't open the devitation.
3. There's a "backwards" button, if you accidentaly go in.
4. If you don't like, just click the button mentioned above, and don't flame.

We understand that some of you just dislike it, but how do you think we feel when you do the same with two characters who don't fit? Of course, there are some who understand, and like those pairings, and some who don't. I've heard lots of "Is this what male friendship turned into?" and "Two anime characters can't even be friends now?", and I tell you that we do know how to distinguish couple from friends, and we write fanfiction about what we want to. We write about friendship, too, so don't judje us like that.

And I repeat, we don't want this war, but we're in need to fight back. I'm sorry it has come to this condition, but if we're being fought against because you want to exclude what we like from the internet, we have the right to protest. What would you think if people started to delete a thing that you like from the internet, or the place you live?

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We just want to gain our own space. Here are my personal answers, by the name of :iconloveitadei: , to some things people have said.

1)"Yaoi is a GENRE of anime/manga. Why do so many people think it is an essential ingredient of life? If all the yaoi anime/manga/fanworks went up in flames guess what? You wouldn't die! Oh and if it did all burn that would probably not affect the homosexual agenda at all. Chew on that one for awhile."

We know that. But if you like something a lot, wouldn't you like to see it? You also do that. If you love chocolate, for example, and then you were not permitted to eat it, at all, or all of it were burned or thrown out. Wouldn't you still want to have it? Wouldn't you try to get it? Here's your answer: yes.

2)"Yaoi is not the best genre there is, and disliking it doesn't mean you are a horrible person with bad morals."

We understand that, too. But there are people who declared war on us for posting our art, and what we like. We're just fighting back to end this, instead of submitting to other's will and proving ourselves weak in this.

3)"Two guys being in the same artwork together does not mean they are a couple. Even if they are looking at each other and are smiling! And yes this applies to official art too! It's like, omg in what universe if you are in a picture with a friend does that automatically mean you are going out?"

I think what I mentioned above counts as an answer here. We do know friendship, we understand it, we write about it. We don't say: "Oh, he looked/smiled at him! They're boyfriends!" Come on, people. We're not like that. We just pair who we think would be good together, not anyone. And also, you have no order or obligation to read/see our art.

{{added by Ashurii-YaoiFangurl: I understand that. If it applies for two girls/guys then shouldn't this apply for a picture that feature a guy and girl? I mean it only seems fair that}}

4)"Why does not liking yaoi mean that people don't want to talk with you or be associated with you? I mean if I started a mecha hate club, nobody would dislike me for it. Yet I've had people who won't even link exchange with my free web graphics site because I refuse to include yaoi series and I link to an anti-yaoi site. Who'se being the close minded one here?"

Once again, we didn't start this. When did we go in and say "You all must like yaoi! You have no right to dislike it!", when? All we want is for you to stop this situation, and for us to get a moment of peace around here.

I hope we now have an understanding. Please, we only want a right to post our art, and enjoy other's art.

To the staff:
We do understand that dA's rules don't allow explicit mature content to be posted, but if you're going to delete the devitations that have mature content, please do so with all of them instead of just targeting the ones with homossexual themes.

The thing that gets us annoyed, and even angry at some times, is that the deleted devitations and suspended/banned artists are mainly those involved with yaoi/yuri. Now I ask you, are those the only ones who have broken the rules at times? Is there a rule or ideal on dA where it reads "Homosexual content will be priority when checking devitations to delete and artists to suspend/ban"? Will you ever understand that we only want to have a place where we won't live flooded of "you've been reported" notes and hateful comments on our tastes?

:bulletblue: Those who declared war :bulletblue:

Do you need proof that it was, by most part, the anti-yaoi/yuri people who started the war on dA? Here are some links to pages whith proof.

[link] <--DeviantArt member declairs War on Yaoi--- Battlefield Art.

This post was made by one of those who don't have respect. Thankfully, the dA member mentioned in the post above was banned. Here is what he said:

"Our group isnt about gaining members. we are insurgents of deviant art. we dont show our identities. we just strike back. that is our purpose.

your organization isnt targeted yet. we are geared twoards striking back at those who choose to make established characters things they weren't meant to be. yaoi tends to enable such atrocities. so when that day comes. we shal see you on the battlefield of art."

Also, there are communities, in and out of dA, that are 'dedicated to ban yaoi and yuri from the internet', and soon probably from the world. Here are some, named as I said above.

[link] -antiyaoi on livejournal
[link] ~anti-yaoi-yuriclub on dA
[link] ~AnTi-YaOi-AnD-yUrI on dA
[link] ~The-Anti-Yaoi-Club07 on dA
[link] -Anti-yaoi Federation
[link] -Anti-yaoi Alliance
[link] -\\AnTi-YaOi// on IMEEM

If you know of any other clubs/sites/communities/other that go against yaoi/yuri, please add when reposting.

Now, we'll name those, banned or not, who have declared war against us. Just disliking the thing does not add them to this list, but declaring war or being hateful/flamming does.

"I have taken out the names due to an annoyence that i gess isen't bad cause that person seems to like Shounen-ai. If you wish to know the names goto one of the other people who have copyed this journal"

Please, if you know of more people, add them to the list when reposting.

:bulletpink: Sign it ! :bulletpink:

Add your icon here, and join.

:iconloveitadei: :iconuzumanaru: :iconblackwidowakatsuki: :iconloliwashere: :iconyaoi-live-4-ever: :iconon-break-buissiness: :iconsmexyanimelovers: :icondestination-sky: :iconbrat875: :iconduvessa121: :iconakatsukivixen: :iconyoriuku: :iconakatsukibitch: :iconchibi-riri-chan: :iconareazel: :iconitachixdeidara-club: :iconsusikicks: :iconakatsukiashe: :iconjashinhidanfan: :icontheablackthorn: :iconbos1andonlygrl: :icontakichi-taru: :iconsasunarusasu-club: :iconanimefreak-27: :iconmadlytama: :iconclear-moon: :icondarkchocolatecat: :iconmissivyeng: :iconmrsshikamaru: :iconashurii-yaoifangurl: :icon666lostpunker666: :icontehladynell: :iconvampirepenguin93: :iconmaxjuh: :iconfreakingheadache: :iconchyfly: :iconwolfxunleashed: :iconsu-chan27: :iconash-fall: :iconmoonlite-lingling: :iconcx20: :iconmystikgenie: :iconvivalabettsy: :icontmckee12: :iconmila-dream-believer: :iconmeowmeep499: :icontehnikkeh: :iconn-adeen: :icontoxyy: :iconuchihaprincess16: :iconcharm2999: :icontabe-chan: :icondkstudios05: :iconrainbowponyfairy: :icontecna13: :iconuchiha-uzumaki4ever: :iconmrsuchiha9621: :iconfellipatwins: :iconashurii-yaoifangurl::iconmasteroftheweres:

Clubs that joined us:

:iconyaoi-live-4-ever: :iconitachixdeidara-club: :iconsasunarusasu-club:

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:iconigotadollar:
This journal is going to get you into trouble. Your 'friend' is wrong by posting it, and by having you post it in your journal is going to drag you down with her.

This constitutes as harassment, which is against the TOS.

--
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.


Robert Frost, Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening
:iconigotadollar:
> Sorry, what I meant by that was this part:

Now, we'll name those, banned or not, who have declared war against us. Just disliking the thing does not add them to this list, but declaring war or being hateful/flamming does.

:iconartjihad: :icongreatgreeniguana: :iconrakaithwei: :iconmechy-chan:


That's the only part that is really breaking any rules.

--
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.


Robert Frost, Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening
:iconmasteroftheweres:
Okay, i care why?

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Ignore anyone that wants you to change cause its just wrong
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:iconigotadollar:
You should care because if you don't remove those names from the 'haters' list, you will be banned.

It goes against these rules FAQ #12: deviantART prohibits the submission of 'Hate Art' and 'Hate Propaganda', how is this defined?

It says this:

Currently deviantART defines 'Hate Art' or 'Hate Propaganda' in a similar fashion as most national laws, only slightly modified to fit the internet environment upon which the site operates.

Submissions made to deviantART and statements made in the public areas of the site will be considered hate propaganda if a reviewing administrator judges that they meet the current definition in use at the administrative level.

The staff reserves the right to remove immediately and without warning any submission which advocates or promotes the genocide, killing, or destruction of an identifiable individual, race, religion, nationality, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, gender or disability or which promotes inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction. Submissions which incite or willfully promote hatred against an identifiable group or individual will be removed in a similar fashion without warning.

The staff also reserves the right to take administrative action against any individual who is found to be inciting or willfully promoting hatred as defined above through public statements made anywhere on the deviantART website. Administrative action may range from as little as a verbal warning to an account suspension or an indefinite ban against the user in question.

The staff reserves to the right to judge any given situation to be hate propaganda or acceptable speech based on the individual circumstances of each situation. This policy against hate propaganda is not intended to be used as a tool to disrupt debate, opinion or other valid discussion.
-taken directly from the faq.

It is called Hate Propaganda. those people on that list did not say anything against Yaoi/Yuri, only that it gets deleted as it is found, ehen it is sexually explicit. If you read the comments of loliwashere's journal, you'd see she got offended for no reason, put our names on there for no reason; and after she was told she is breaking the rules she started calling everyone dumbasses, dumbshits; telling them "I hope you get cancer and die." OVER A SILLY LITTLE GENRE OF COMICS.

THAT'S why people have problems with the fangirls. Because she just proved that there are crazies out there.

I told her, right out, that certain yaoi and yuri drawings go against the ruiles and TOS of this website. She got pissed off about it and said, "oh, you just hate yaoi, therefore I hate you."; when I am actually an avid fan of it. She refuses to take me and the others off the list, just because we stated our opinion. Nowhere did we say, "WE HATE HOMOSEXUALS!!!" or "YAOI AND YURI SUCK, IT SHOULD GO A BYE BYE!!!". We told her the rules. She threw a fit. And on her friends account, no less. Some friend, huh?

She is putting the names of people on there who GO AGAINST HER OPINION; after stating, "Please respect our opinion, we respect yours!" Hense, totally going against what the journal stands for.

This never should have been started. The original Poster of this journal was incredibly foolish to bring a ton of other people into this 'war', which there wasn't one until she started it. Do you really want to be banned just because someone was ignorant? Even though I don't know you I'd hate to see you go just because of someone else and their getting offended by something they saw on this website. She could of very well have gone to the help desk. But no; she had to start this foolishness.

Again, you'll get into a lot of trouble just being a part of this, because you posted this journal. Do you want to be banned just because someone can't deal with the fact that pornography is just NOT allowed on here? Any and all pornography will be removed; just because someone's sexually explicit drawing has not been deleted yet does not mean it won't be. Admins can only do so much here; they are doing their very best.

--
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.


Robert Frost, Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening
:iconmasteroftheweres:
Fine, take a look at the miner change. Then reply back, if you so wish

--
There is no right or wrong path, we all walk the same path..Death
Ignore anyone that wants you to change cause its just wrong
Im a guy and my posts are some what girlish
Im Bi and im proud to be Bi
^/_\^ Itachi=Hotty
Im the All Powerful Pocket King
:iconigotadollar:
Sorry for the long input! It would just be unfair for you to be banned because someone else wanted this spread, you know?

--
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.


Robert Frost, Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening
:iconmasteroftheweres:
I gess

--
There is no right or wrong path, we all walk the same path..Death
Ignore anyone that wants you to change cause its just wrong
Im a guy and my posts are some what girlish
Im Bi and im proud to be Bi
^/_\^ Itachi=Hotty
Im the All Powerful Pocket King
:iconlady-izumi:
I agree with Dollar, name dropping (to put it in short terms) can get you in a lot of trouble and is against most websites' TOS.

Anyways, I'm sure we've had the conversation before, but I am completely for yaoi/yuri. It does not hurt anyone and those who dislike it may simply ignore it. Then again, many homophobes choose to start a war with anything that isn't heterosexual because they personally believe these things are wrong and are disgusted by them.

Just like the journal I made about inflation and such, people like these things, just like people like yaoi and yuri, but some people choose to publicly display their hatred by bashing the fandom and those who are involved in it.

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"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a conversation involving cyber sex approaches 1"
:iconmasteroftheweres:
Yeah i know. I removed the names even though there in one of the comments in the journal.

--
There is no right or wrong path, we all walk the same path..Death
Ignore anyone that wants you to change cause its just wrong
Im a guy and my posts are some what girlish
Im Bi and im proud to be Bi
^/_\^ Itachi=Hotty
Im the All Powerful Pocket King

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